that is the habitat of the california salamander. damaging his habitat cost $50,000 and you get a year in jail. i said, man, if black people had these kind of protections -- [laughter] i went on the department of the interior to look at the endangered species list. virtually everyone, from societal neglect to large species in captivity, too encroachment in the national habitat, ultimately it became a social experiment. you will very rarely see -- if you took a gray wolf, which has habitat challenges, and changed his name to trayvon martin, he would get less sympathy. it seemed like an interesting place. tavis: what do you say to black men or others to feel insulted by the very comparison to the gray wolf, to the salamander? >> i think if people had the sympathy for us that they had four other species that were in danger, there would be in a better position. if you cannot argue that we are -- the dinosaur is not here because of the education age. it poses those kind of challenges for black men. i will never forget that i am a comic. w